R1a vs r1b. Ancient phylogeography: spread of haplogroups R1b, R1a and N

Discussion in '2020' started by Mazuzilkree , Wednesday, February 23, 2022 8:34:34 AM.

  1. Gardakree

    Gardakree

    Messages:
    77
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Hum Mutat. Inline Feedbacks. These single-base-pair points are scattered throughout the genome, having mutated from their original form only once a long time ago. His place in the Near Eastern cluster suggests that. It would be a big discovery to find a specimen that is positive for R1b-L yet negative for a phylogenetic equivalent. R1a1a M17, M Chakraborty eds.
     
  2. Arashishakar

    Arashishakar

    Messages:
    266
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    6
    From regions around the Caspian Sea, descendants of R1a moved west through Central Europe and into Scandinavia.R-P probably took a more southernly passage to the Rhine Valley, and from there to the Atlantic and north-western Mediterranean coasts.
    R1a vs r1b. The phylogenetic and geographic structure of Y-chromosome haplogroup R1a
     
  3. Sazshura

    Sazshura

    Messages:
    223
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    7
    Males carrying R-M in modern populations appear to comprise two subclades: R1a and R1b, which are found mainly in populations native to Eurasia (except.I1 CNE cluster.
     
  4. Maubei

    Maubei

    Messages:
    259
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    1
    According to those studies, haplogroups R1b and R1a, now the most common in Europe (R1a is also common in South Asia) would have expanded from the.Indeed, in my mind they're the main genetic signals of its massive expansion, probably from a homeland somewhere north of the Black Sea in what is now Ukraine.
     
  5. Malara

    Malara

    Messages:
    379
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    7
    In a European perspective, R1b is Western Proto Celtic Europe and R1a is Central and Eastern Europe, with Nordic DNA carrying both lineages, as well as Ural.They moved west into land occupied by Neolithic farmers whose population had probably already been decimated by Yersinia Pestis.
     
  6. Migul

    Migul

    Messages:
    117
    Likes Received:
    25
    Trophy Points:
    3
    heavenmanga.online › forum › threads › Battle-of-European-R1a-vs-.Perhaps there is something about these two females' autosomal dna that is actually indicative of some early Slavs.
     
  7. Taudal

    Taudal

    Messages:
    690
    Likes Received:
    18
    Trophy Points:
    2
    In truth, modern day Scandinavia has roughly an almost equal mix of I1, R1a1 and R1b with Norway having the most R1a1. To reiterate, I agree.Bibcode : SciA
    R1a vs r1b. R1b Haplogroup | R1a Haplogroup
     
  8. Bazuru

    Bazuru

    Messages:
    140
    Likes Received:
    25
    Trophy Points:
    7
    More precisely, R1a-M dominates in Eastern Europe, while R1b-L51 in Western Europe. It's been obvious for a while now, at least to me, that.Haplogroup diversities were calculated using the method of Nei.
     
  9. Nikomi

    Nikomi

    Messages:
    706
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ancient phylogeography: spread of haplogroups R1b, R1a and N little help regarding potential northern vs. southern Caspian paths for ca.Particularly interesting are:.
    R1a vs r1b. Haplogroup R1
     
  10. Volmaran

    Volmaran

    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Whole Y-chromosome sequence analysis of eight R1a and five R1b individuals suggests a Beyond the major European versus Asian dichotomy.In South Asia, R1a1a has often been observed in a number of demographic groups.
     
  11. Macage

    Macage

    Messages:
    795
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    7
    Supplementary Data File S1.
     
  12. Arashijin

    Arashijin

    Messages:
    984
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    3
    We see it only because we give so much importance to the Y-DNA haplogroup.
    R1a vs r1b.
     
  13. Shakalar

    Shakalar

    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    0
    But don't worry, you can hide out in the Swiss Alps.
     
  14. JoJoktilar

    JoJoktilar

    Messages:
    326
    Likes Received:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    4
    M R1a1.
    R1a vs r1b.
     
  15. Tojas

    Tojas

    Messages:
    491
    Likes Received:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    4
    May
     
  16. Mikar

    Mikar

    Messages:
    555
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    7
    This paper has also effect on the R1b U story.
     
  17. Nikozshura

    Nikozshura

    Messages:
    232
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Author information Article notes Copyright and License information Disclaimer.
    R1a vs r1b.
     
  18. Yorr

    Yorr

    Messages:
    631
    Likes Received:
    23
    Trophy Points:
    3
    So my point was that it was certainly a dramatic rise and fall for P over a relatively short amount of time.
     
  19. Gardagore

    Gardagore

    Messages:
    225
    Likes Received:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    0
    A simultaneous decline of Y-chromosomal diversity dating to the Neolithic has been observed across most extant Y-haplogroups 64possibly due to increased conflict between male-mediated patrilines
     
  20. Gusida

    Gusida

    Messages:
    298
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    7
    No, typical BB genetics in the true sense formed in the Lower Rhine.
     
  21. Kasho

    Kasho

    Messages:
    700
    Likes Received:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Descendants accumulate the Y-SNP mutations of all their paternal ancestors.
     
  22. Arabar

    Arabar

    Messages:
    287
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    3
    forum? Germanic must have had early contact with BS.
     
  23. Shaktill

    Shaktill

    Messages:
    296
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Satem developed in Indo-Iranian or some lost relative of itand is only entirely 'complete' there; satemisation is also not quite the same change everywhere, so it's not an ancestral split.
     
  24. Yomuro

    Yomuro

    Messages:
    466
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    2
    Z ,
    R1a vs r1b.
     
  25. Mosida

    Mosida

    Messages:
    353
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    0
    To do so, we used Surfer v.
    R1a vs r1b.
     
  26. Kajirg

    Kajirg

    Messages:
    720
    Likes Received:
    23
    Trophy Points:
    2
    forum? This kind of burial was common in the Eastern Roman settlements for aristocratic members of society
    R1a vs r1b.
     
  27. Voodoomuro

    Voodoomuro

    Messages:
    389
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    3
    The placement and timings also weakly suggest to me a migration over the north of the Carpathian mountains, rather than south up the Danube, as other have posited Eupedia is a high-profile example.Forum R1a vs r1b
     
  28. Daijar

    Daijar

    Messages:
    185
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    6
    I tend to assume with Reich and Patterson that when either of them present some unusual hypothesis, they have found some dna that backs it.
     
  29. Kigasar

    Kigasar

    Messages:
    160
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    2
    Q1b especially is a surprise.
     
  30. Disida

    Disida

    Messages:
    435
    Likes Received:
    26
    Trophy Points:
    3
    It doesn't change the fact that our ancestors then stayed in central Europe or migrated to Scandinavia, while our R-P brethren formed the Bell Beaker reflux and expanded to the British Isles, Iberia, Bavaria and the Italian peninsula.
     
  31. Vudole

    Vudole

    Messages:
    447
    Likes Received:
    24
    Trophy Points:
    7
    Supplementary Figure 2.
     
  32. Gotaur

    Gotaur

    Messages:
    132
    Likes Received:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Obviously, in many cases different early Corded Ware clans went in different directions, for whatever reason.
     
  33. Voktilar

    Voktilar

    Messages:
    842
    Likes Received:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    7
    Am surprised how much impact yamnaya had, had forgoten about it.
     
  34. Mihn

    Mihn

    Messages:
    106
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    7
    These are the Mesolithic and Neolithic samples up until just before the Corded Ware expansion, and the map they form with slightly modified colors for easier visualization :.
     
  35. Yohn

    Yohn

    Messages:
    439
    Likes Received:
    26
    Trophy Points:
    2
    In general, both R1a-M and R1a-M occur at low but informative frequencies in Balkan populations with known Slavonic heritage.Forum R1a vs r1b
     
  36. Vuramar

    Vuramar

    Messages:
    215
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    2
    forum? Corded Ware clans definitely had functional societies.
     

Link Thread